Being sure of the truth

Being sure of the truth
I have to confessing an Emerging Church sin.  I listened to Mark Driscoll’s talk at Soularize and I liked it.  Yep.  The guy who doesn’t allow women to lead.  The guy who has a strong antagonism towards anything labeled postmodern.  The guy who, during the talk I was listening to, almost beat the crap out of some guy who believed in universal salvation.  The guy who thinks most contemporary worship songs are homoerotic.

Why would I listen to such a guy?

It’s because he believes in something.  He believes in something so strongly he doesn’t care what I think about it.  I don’t share his theology and I think he has made some debatable issues black and white but that isn’t that uncommon.  I just thought it was freaking refreshing to listen to someone who actually believes in what he says.

We’ve all suffered from the absurd reductionism of modernity.  We were presented with world view full of black and white, good and evil, and that worldview was hollow and shallow.  It didn’t seem to fit and it certainly didn’t live up to expectations.   

In our reaction to this has the pendulum swung to far?  We have books on the myth of certainty.  How long before we see the “Myth of uncertainty”?  Jesus didn’t die for something he wasn’t sure of.  Paul didn’t endure all manner of suffering for something he didn’t know in his heart.  If the followers of the way were so sure that they followed the truth shouldn’t we, as followers of the way, be just as sure?

I am a Christian because God revealed the Truth to me.  I follow Him because I’d much rather follow something that is greater than my own selfish agenda.

  1. #1 by Karl Thienes on December 31, 2003 - 1:09 am

    I can already hear the sound of people wanting to write back and quote verses about how we all “see through a glass darkly” and that no one person can claim to have the truth, etc.

    The irony (and you’ve nailed it) is that one can claim to know the truth and at the same time not claim to have invented it. In fact, the ultimate act of humility and inclusivness is to admit that Truth is not ours, but is in fact God and comes from God. The *freedom* in this is amazing (especially as an Orthodox).

    That paradox is usually too much for most to handle. The almost fanatical knee jerk reaction by PoMo’s to the kind of sentiment you write about here is just proof that they are assuming of you what they do themselves: truly think that truth comes from them and not from God.

  2. #2 by Scott Holden on December 31, 2003 - 1:56 am

    Does it have to be either/or? Can there be a humility that allows both? Can we “know” that Jesus is the Truth but we only know him as the truth? That has nothing to do with him but with us. If the fall was comprehensive then our ability to know is always contextual. That does not negate truth but makes us have to depend on the Spirit of God and others to know “fully.” Just because one is hesitant or should I say cautious with truth claims does not presuppose a lack of conviction.

    Leighton don’t you believe what you preach? Are you black and white?

    Can it be both?

    Also I am sorry that chris and I got out of control. It was not my intention. I grieve when disunity happens. So again sorry.

    Scott Holden

  3. #3 by Linea on December 31, 2003 - 6:05 am

    We certainly need to have a basis of truth to believe in. If we don’t believe that God is Truth then we don’t have much to believe in. I believe God is Truth and he reveals himself to us through his Spirit and through his word which is also truth (truth does not necesarily = literal) But there have been so many leaders; charismatic, forceful and who claim to know the only truth, and certainly seem to believe it themselves,but who have little room in their lives for love, humility and understanding of others. In fact the worlds worst leaders and dictators are good examples of this too. God is also Love and lived a servant life. So when I listen to a leader speak, I want to hear truth but also love and humility coming through.

  4. #4 by robbymac on December 31, 2003 - 11:40 am

    Maybe if we just keep remembering that God defines our society – postmodern, modern, or whatever is next, and not the other way around?

  5. #5 by switch on December 31, 2003 - 3:32 pm

    I think some “emergent” people have way too much free time in their hands. I wonder how much good does taking Mars Hill under the microscope and deciding if is emergent or not. At least it brings good hits to their counters.

    I agree with LT – some “emergents” formerly known as “pomo’s” (what would be the next catchy word?) talk about openess – but seem to me too much black and white when it comes to judge the non-emergent on their opinions. Why can’t we be friends? Is this even a “relevant” subject to discuss. I guess this is my last comment on the issue.

  6. #6 by Bene Diction on January 1, 2004 - 12:41 am

    Hey LT, didn’t you watch Paul Martin’s year end interview? He believed what he was saying too.

    Happy New Year!

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