The object of our faith


The object of our faith

Where do we place our faith?  Some say it’s the bible.  Non evangelical segments of the Christian church have pointed out that the bible was put together by the church.  Therefore the church must have some authority.  I think they have a point.  The authors in the bible never say that their words are the foundation for truth.  Paul wrote that scripture is God breathed.  I believe that makes it authoritative but Paul doesn’t say that the bible is the foundation for truth.

When Paul came to Corinth his aim was that the Corinthians would come to faith in the power of God, not in his own words.  He didn’t try to get them to believe in what he said; he tried to get them to trust in a very interactive God.

1Cor 2:4 My conversation and my preaching were not with persuasive words of wisdom, but with a demonstration of the Spirit and of power, 2:5 so that your faith would not be based on human wisdom but on the power of God.

In some informal surveys I’ve conducted I found that most of the people in church became Christians around age 7 because they wanted to go to heaven and they didn’t want to go to hell.  Their parents often encouraged their children to pray the sinner’s prayer” or accept Christ”.   This whole process seems odd to me.  No one goes to heaven because they pray a prayer, even the sinner’s prayer.  Evangelicals have long held that we are saved by grace through faith.  I don’t know when we started to think that it is faith plus a prayer or that the sinner’s prayer equalled faith.

One of the things we need to explore is the object of our faith. In many ways we’ve redefined faith in God to mean faith in the bible or faith in a prayer. We talk about faith in God but what we are really talking about is faith in a Christian worldview.Unfortunately worldviews are powerless in helping us overcome sin.

 

  1. #1 by Toni on August 24, 2003 - 3:07 am

    More on this later if I get time (just about to leave for the outlaws).

    I’ve generally thought of ‘theologians’ as ‘bibliologists’. People that study the assembly of the bible, rather than God. Harsh, but often close.

  2. #2 by Mike Murdock on August 24, 2003 - 9:04 am

    Danger, Will Robinson! Ahead lies the Barthian abyss! :)

    Obviously, I’m kidding with you, but there is some aspect of what you’ve described that is the core of much of neo-orthodoxy. Consider the ordination vows I took:

    (1) Do you trust in Jesus Christ your Savior, acknowledge

    him Lord of all and Head of the Church, and through him believe in one God, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit?

    (2) Do you accept the Scriptures of the Old and New Testaments to be, by the Holy Spirit, the unique and authoritative witness to Jesus Christ in the Church universal, and God’s Word to you?

    Notice the starting point, then the derivative shift back to the focus of the first question in the second?

  3. #3 by Robert Williams on August 25, 2003 - 12:41 pm

    I agree that our faith is in the God of the Bible, not in the Bible. But in Psalm 119, David flat out said he loved God’s word. I wonder if we’d classify him as a bibliolater?

  4. #4 by Leighton Tebay on August 25, 2003 - 3:55 pm

    I love God’s word and I don’t believe I idolize the bible.

  5. #5 by Dan on August 28, 2003 - 12:44 am

    Hi,

    I borrowed your writeup on the object of faith for a message board I am apart of. The URL is

    http://www.langleyrevolution.com/messageboard/

    the direct link is:

    http://www.langleyrevolution.com/messageboard/viewtopic.php?p=4844

    It’s a youth/young adult site, and a couple of us really admire your journal. It’s been a real inspiration. Feel free to come over to the site and join. There’s no real age limit. It’d be great to have more input into our discussions. So if you’ve got the time, I’ve got the place.

    take care and God bless,

    Dan

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